October 21, 2020
On this episode, Kris and I discuss: James Wright, the etymology of empathy, you can’t take my shoes, a kind moose, difference between empathy and kindness, the wisdom of Vida Blue, is empathy respectful?, the case against middle management, the value of sincerity, swordsmanship without a sword, and Do Every Thing Wrong!
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Music and mixing for this episode: ous/li
October 14, 2020
On this episode, Kris and I talk the equation of mental health with mental illness, rats in cages, the seductive allure of circumstance, the meaning of aftermath, JDO's sordid history, practical suggestions for dealing with depression, and The Archaic Torso of Apollo.
October 11, 2020
On this episode I talk to Sean Kilpatrick about: Timothy McVeigh, the rise of the woke, street justice, the purity of being weird, letting people scream fire in a crowded theater, false flags, finding things on both sides, being pro-weeping, the horror of AI, and the utilization of tragedy.
Sean's books: Thank You, Steel China,Anatomy Courses and Sucker June
Sean's twitter: @SeanKilpatrick
September 30, 2020
On this episode, Kris and I talk about the work of Gregory Bateson, schizmogenesis, breaking the barriers of language, hypnosis, the play nature of paranormal phenomena, the magic of dingos, A Pickle for the Knowing Ones, ecstatic states in art, and the pain of initiation.
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Kris: @KrisSaknussemm
The music and mixing for this episode was performed by ous/li.
September 23, 2020
On this episode, Kris and I are back to the ongoing conversation about magic and art. We discuss the earth’s blood, the business of metaphor, The Throne of the Third Heaven, a face-tatted trench coat in a house of monsters, free advice about gambling addiction, Terence McKenna, and a Crossroads Man.
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Keep your fingers crossed for a Reverend America reissue at some point.
Artists mentioned:
James Hampton
William Kurelek
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September 16, 2020
On this episode, I (JDO) record my end from inside my 2005 Nissan Altima. I drive around OKC, noting the things that I see, and Kris recounts stories from his time wandering around America looking for work. We talk about the difference between family and friends, networks of Indian convenience stores, outdoor couches, opossum hunters, my week as a radical animal liberation terrorist, the significance of and issues with Black Lives Matter, and finally, blowguns.
September 14, 2020
Max Booth II came on the show. He is the author of The Nightly Disease, Touch the Night, and We Need to Do Something. He also hosts the podcast Ghoulish. Follow him at @GiveMeYourTeeth on twitter.
Topic list:
kink shaming
key and peel
prestige tv
zima chug
quitting the night shift
the value of walking
are you gay
does twitter make sense
2 girls 1 cup
living in a hotel
home alone is the actual christmas movie
expertisism
no more chads
tweeting about success
getting rid of social media
corona talk
parents who gamble
you can’t be anything at 17
don’t cancel anyone
don’t kill anyone
it’s all so silly
not ready to die
September 9, 2020
On this episode, Kris and I discuss bringing language into the physical, the sacredness of speech, the transcendence of a blue heron, and how certain objects attain a kind of soul once they are used. What does it mean to verb a name? I also give a little update about the developing mystery surrounding the mental hospital I live near, which involves a force that may be thousands of years old.
Please send any thoughts you might have about the content of our show to thebutterflyinyourmouth@gmail.com.
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Thanks for listening!
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September 8, 2020
This week it is my honor to swapcast with my favorite podcast, Rune Soup! In this episode, we use the 90s classic graphic novel The Invisibles to work out how to grow and adapt to the coming storm.
Gordon White is the author of Star.Ships, The Chaos Protocols, and Pieces of Eight.
Tracklist:
my ghost story
blogging
don’t talk about shit before it’s done
the mind virus
do people like to be afraid?
gordon and david describe the invisibles
covered in potting soil
the spell of the conspiracy
no one thinks they’re the bad guy
conspiracy is acting in class interest
against control
if you are being atomized, we are in the presence of the archons
the time that grant put himself in the book
don’t abuse your metaphor
i thought alan moore was cool
metaphor comes first
how you play is what you win
wanna win? don’t play
australia has always been a police state
active non-participation
tim dillon lovefest
the big 5 cabal
jdo’s bizarro origin story
time loops and mushroom tech
the invisibles is from the ‘90s
the future and value of novels
